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	<title>Comments on: No Pictures Taken &amp; None Allowed at the Hatem Bazian Lecture</title>
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		<title>By: Sepharad</title>
		<link>http://clog.dailycal.org/2007/10/06/no-pictures-taken-none-allowed-at-the-hatem-bazian-lecture/#comment-410</link>
		<dc:creator>Sepharad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;The real issue here isn&#8217;t the Strauss blog but the responses. On other campuses, the Palestinian and Islamic activextremists do a lot more than grabbing someone&#8217;s camera &#8212; Ethan, consider yourself lucky &#8212; but those opposed to the bullying, shouting down speakers and violence perpetated by the PalestinianIslamic activextremists issue mild, fearful rejoinders which are rarely if ever mentioned in any campus media. As a secular Jew highly supportive of Israel, I&#8217;m glad to see a little life in these comments, but am also slightly turned off by suggestions to ban the Koran (or any other book). Instead, I&#8217;d suggest readers and believers of the Koran read more history from more sources, and also ask themselves why the 750,000 Arab refugees from the &#8217;48 war are still isolated in camps three generations later, only now there are several million of them. Compare this to the plight of the 900,000 Jews living in Arab countries who were driven out immediately following the war in what the Arab League&#8217;s Iraqi delegate called a &#8220;population exchange.&#8221; called &#8220;a population exchange.&#8221; Israel took them in, despite the fragility and lack of infrastructure. Why didn&#8217;t the other Arab countries, with vast lands and rich with oil, offer the same to their Arab brothers? &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;There are excellent books on what Fouad Ajami (a secular Shiia from Beirut now head of Middle East Center at Johns Hopkins) called &#8220;The Arab Predicament&#8221;, there are UN-sponsored studies by secular Arabs re the cultural malignancies afflicting the Arab countries, and there is always the analysis and history written by the great Arab historian Ibn Khaldun &#8212; the guy who, among other things, interviewed Tamurlane at the Gates of Damascus, next to his trademark pile of skulls. The Arab Islamic society is sick unto death &#8212; and the great Kurd warrior Salah-ah-din would be ashamed to see what became of all his efforts. He would have had Saddam&#8217;s and Osama&#8217;s heads on a platter in a New York minute. But he&#8217;d have eventually gotten around to banishing the Palestinian leaders who spent most of their money donated from sympathetic Westerners on suicide bombings, madrassas instead of real education, and keeping Suha Arafat in the Parisian elite lifestyle she&#8217;d become accustomed to while denying the Palestinian people economic growth (in which Israel was trying to participate before the intifada). There are many great role models for Arabs and other Moslems to look up to &#8212; Ibn Rushd, the great poets and scientists the golden age in al Andalus. It&#8217;s sheer folly to look to bloody-minded Mohammed as not just a religious prophet but also as the primary cultural hero.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real issue here isn&#8217;t the Strauss blog but the responses. On other campuses, the Palestinian and Islamic activextremists do a lot more than grabbing someone&#8217;s camera &#8212; Ethan, consider yourself lucky &#8212; but those opposed to the bullying, shouting down speakers and violence perpetated by the PalestinianIslamic activextremists issue mild, fearful rejoinders which are rarely if ever mentioned in any campus media. As a secular Jew highly supportive of Israel, I&#8217;m glad to see a little life in these comments, but am also slightly turned off by suggestions to ban the Koran (or any other book). Instead, I&#8217;d suggest readers and believers of the Koran read more history from more sources, and also ask themselves why the 750,000 Arab refugees from the &#8217;48 war are still isolated in camps three generations later, only now there are several million of them. Compare this to the plight of the 900,000 Jews living in Arab countries who were driven out immediately following the war in what the Arab League&#8217;s Iraqi delegate called a &#8220;population exchange.&#8221; called &#8220;a population exchange.&#8221; Israel took them in, despite the fragility and lack of infrastructure. Why didn&#8217;t the other Arab countries, with vast lands and rich with oil, offer the same to their Arab brothers? </p>
<p>There are excellent books on what Fouad Ajami (a secular Shiia from Beirut now head of Middle East Center at Johns Hopkins) called &#8220;The Arab Predicament&#8221;, there are UN-sponsored studies by secular Arabs re the cultural malignancies afflicting the Arab countries, and there is always the analysis and history written by the great Arab historian Ibn Khaldun &#8212; the guy who, among other things, interviewed Tamurlane at the Gates of Damascus, next to his trademark pile of skulls. The Arab Islamic society is sick unto death &#8212; and the great Kurd warrior Salah-ah-din would be ashamed to see what became of all his efforts. He would have had Saddam&#8217;s and Osama&#8217;s heads on a platter in a New York minute. But he&#8217;d have eventually gotten around to banishing the Palestinian leaders who spent most of their money donated from sympathetic Westerners on suicide bombings, madrassas instead of real education, and keeping Suha Arafat in the Parisian elite lifestyle she&#8217;d become accustomed to while denying the Palestinian people economic growth (in which Israel was trying to participate before the intifada). There are many great role models for Arabs and other Moslems to look up to &#8212; Ibn Rushd, the great poets and scientists the golden age in al Andalus. It&#8217;s sheer folly to look to bloody-minded Mohammed as not just a religious prophet but also as the primary cultural hero.</p>
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		<title>By: obstreperous</title>
		<link>http://clog.dailycal.org/2007/10/06/no-pictures-taken-none-allowed-at-the-hatem-bazian-lecture/#comment-397</link>
		<dc:creator>obstreperous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;The normal population have had a gutful of the &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;ROP&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
I can&#8217;t make it any plainer than that.&lt;br /&gt;
Rope in your extremists or the future will be islam free.&lt;br /&gt;
You will be like abused puppies.&lt;br /&gt;
You can&#8217;t even fight your own battles and get us to rid you of you Saddams etc.&lt;br /&gt;
Grow some cahones and DO IT &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;YOURSELVES&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
We&#8217;re sick of sticking up for cowards.&lt;br /&gt;
Hanging children for having US dollars.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;YOU&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;COWARDLY&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;IDIOTS&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
Don&#8217;t even mention the butchery of halal meats!!!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The normal population have had a gutful of the <span class="caps">ROP</span>.<br />
I can&#8217;t make it any plainer than that.<br />
Rope in your extremists or the future will be islam free.<br />
You will be like abused puppies.<br />
You can&#8217;t even fight your own battles and get us to rid you of you Saddams etc.<br />
Grow some cahones and DO IT <span class="caps">YOURSELVES</span>.<br />
We&#8217;re sick of sticking up for cowards.<br />
Hanging children for having US dollars.<br />
<span class="caps">YOU</span> <span class="caps">COWARDLY</span> <span class="caps">IDIOTS</span>.<br />
Don&#8217;t even mention the butchery of halal meats!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ban the Koran</title>
		<link>http://clog.dailycal.org/2007/10/06/no-pictures-taken-none-allowed-at-the-hatem-bazian-lecture/#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator>Ban the Koran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Sign this petition to ban the Koran! &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;http://www.petitiononline.com/banquran/petition.html&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;And tell others to do the same!&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sign this petition to ban the Koran! </p>
<p><a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/banquran/petition.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.petitiononline.com/banquran/petition.html</a></p>
<p>And tell others to do the same!</p>
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		<title>By: Mahdi Joe</title>
		<link>http://clog.dailycal.org/2007/10/06/no-pictures-taken-none-allowed-at-the-hatem-bazian-lecture/#comment-400</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahdi Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;No surprise here.  Physical intimidation and using violence to suppress free speech are page one of the islamic playbook.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No surprise here.  Physical intimidation and using violence to suppress free speech are page one of the islamic playbook.</p>
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		<title>By: JJJoseph</title>
		<link>http://clog.dailycal.org/2007/10/06/no-pictures-taken-none-allowed-at-the-hatem-bazian-lecture/#comment-394</link>
		<dc:creator>JJJoseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Why do muslims insist on being losers?  Haven&#8217;t they learned anything from a thousand years of getting angry and piously attacking their annoying opponents?  Anybody can tell you that this is &#8216;Marketing for Losers 101&#8217;.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do muslims insist on being losers?  Haven&#8217;t they learned anything from a thousand years of getting angry and piously attacking their annoying opponents?  Anybody can tell you that this is &#8216;Marketing for Losers 101&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Oze McCallum</title>
		<link>http://clog.dailycal.org/2007/10/06/no-pictures-taken-none-allowed-at-the-hatem-bazian-lecture/#comment-393</link>
		<dc:creator>Oze McCallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Islam is a totalitarian ideology masquerading as a religion that was  started by a murderous pedophile. Just like the other ideologies like it that were defeated in the last century, it too must be destroyed. It has no place in modern society.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Islam is a totalitarian ideology masquerading as a religion that was  started by a murderous pedophile. Just like the other ideologies like it that were defeated in the last century, it too must be destroyed. It has no place in modern society.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Waddel</title>
		<link>http://clog.dailycal.org/2007/10/06/no-pictures-taken-none-allowed-at-the-hatem-bazian-lecture/#comment-392</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Waddel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Why is it that Islam and Violence seem to be synonymous?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that Islam and Violence seem to be synonymous?</p>
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		<title>By: tom fife</title>
		<link>http://clog.dailycal.org/2007/10/06/no-pictures-taken-none-allowed-at-the-hatem-bazian-lecture/#comment-391</link>
		<dc:creator>tom fife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;It wasn&#8217;t us.  Islam is a religion of peace.  Jihad means an inner struggle to make one a better person. There is no coercion in Islam. There a seven million peaceful Muslim in the US.  Yeah, right.  Lies, lies and more lies, but hey the Koran says you can do anything to a nonbeliever.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t us.  Islam is a religion of peace.  Jihad means an inner struggle to make one a better person. There is no coercion in Islam. There a seven million peaceful Muslim in the US.  Yeah, right.  Lies, lies and more lies, but hey the Koran says you can do anything to a nonbeliever.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Sloggin</title>
		<link>http://clog.dailycal.org/2007/10/06/no-pictures-taken-none-allowed-at-the-hatem-bazian-lecture/#comment-390</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Sloggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Nothing to see here, move along please&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing to see here, move along please&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Proud Infidel</title>
		<link>http://clog.dailycal.org/2007/10/06/no-pictures-taken-none-allowed-at-the-hatem-bazian-lecture/#comment-389</link>
		<dc:creator>Proud Infidel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;This is the 1001st piece of proof for me. The mullahs in charge want no record of their bloodthirsty statements. The Religion of Peace isn&#8217;t.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the 1001st piece of proof for me. The mullahs in charge want no record of their bloodthirsty statements. The Religion of Peace isn&#8217;t.</p>
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